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Complaints and Ban Appeals => Complaints => Topic started by: thorr on 30.06.2017 17:09:28

Title: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: thorr on 30.06.2017 17:09:28
1. My in-game name is:

ÞÓRR

2. The player that I'm complaining about:

Atlasben

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198141809328

3. The rule(s) that the player has broken:

Admin (command) abuse to get advantage over other players, rendering them unkillable and giving severe advantages such as crits which insta-kill the player.

4. The incident occurred on (month, day and possibly the hours):

30-6-2017
14:53:00 ~

5. The server in which the incident occurred:

84.52.56.66:27019

6. Explanation of what happened:

Join server, play a bit, proceed to see an admin abusing their powers. Forcing rolls, using noclip, godmode and resizing other players.
Not all of these are present in the current video but it is a phenomenon that has been spotted by several players, ultimately decimating the player base of the server.

To make a list:

Unfortunately I don't have an extensive collection of evidence because I never thought I had to, but it did begin somewhere mid 2016. I have played on this server for several years and this person suddenly appeared and started bad-mouthing everyone. On one day he suddenly had admin and started abusing it. To top it off, I haven't been the only victim. There have been several other players that have been banned for no apparent reason. I get that it's an idle server, and an admin is probably not even required/necessary. But the way players are treated leaves the benefit of the doubt.

7. My collected evidence (screenshots, screenshots of logs or videos etc.):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLAvzd8e2wM
http://i.imgur.com/iMX8aCN.png

8. My suggestions:

Limit access to commands under groups in Sourcemod for the vips/admins. God mode, no clip and such are not necessary on an idle server.
Limit player resizeability from 3.0 to something like 2.5, to prevent players getting stuck. (On an additional note 0.7 is pretty annoying to play against, especially spy, so if spy could be limit to minimal 1.0 that'd be great.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Dark Inferno on 30.06.2017 17:18:21
I've been playing with this atlasben too, everytime someone dominates him or he dies/gets mad he always goes godmode noclip and toxic and starts killing whole enemy team. And if you tell him to stop he kicks you for that. Somebody must do something about that i havent played that server cause of him. He gets alot of reports and complaints yet nobody in this forum do something.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Naomie Smalls on 30.06.2017 18:47:17
He is technically the owner of the idle 1 server. Maybe try the other two idle servers?
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Teenystingray75 on 30.06.2017 18:51:18
Sorry, but i haven't forgotten about you being a dick the whole time i was on the server, and while i was VIP.

So yeah, you were a dick to me - now it's my turn to be a dick to you.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Dr. Deltality on 30.06.2017 19:00:32
why do we even need an admin for an idle server?
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Naomie Smalls on 30.06.2017 19:02:57
why do we even need an admin for an idle server?

We don't, he paid for it
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Dr. Deltality on 30.06.2017 19:03:48
He paid to be an admin of a fucking idle server?

Well, maybe he could pay you too for keeping him an admin
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Lalafell on 30.06.2017 20:59:39
Well she is keeping him as an admin anyways, so why does he need to pay her?  :P :P :P :P
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Dr. Deltality on 01.07.2017 01:51:07
Because usuck
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: thorr on 01.07.2017 12:04:57
And a few more screenshots to add to the stackpile of evidence:

http://imgur.com/a/4QEpp

I've seen few abusive admins in my life which have been made short work of by admins, but this one is the cherry on the cake.  :clap: Yet, still. After numerous complaints to Bluestar, there has either been no response, or the only singular response was "Well he paid $600 for admin so".

He is technically the owner of the idle 1 server. Maybe try the other two idle servers?

Yeah, well that's the problem exactly. There's no point in those servers existing because they're empty. The only populated one has been dying slowly because of atlasben, enforcing his own set of rules. I just don't see the point, he doesn't like being killed - or what?

He paid to be an admin of a fucking idle server?

Well, maybe he could pay you too for keeping him an admin

Lol, wow. That's new. This is exactly the prime problem though, someone can come in and buy something just to proclaim führer status, it's not right. Well, time to look for another server then. Money speaks, after all.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Dark Inferno on 01.07.2017 12:36:02
So you're telling me since he paid owner to get admin now he can do whatever the fuck he wants there and other people have to switch server cause nobody wont do anything to him, after all these reports you should realize that there is something wrong. People are giving solid proof about him abusing his admin and stuff but nobody does anything about it. And the other idle servers are empty af, people are leaving cause of him i've seen good amount of people telling that they quit cause of atlasben abusing his power. Time to wake up and do something about him before the server dies cause of him. 3-4 complaints about him already here.


"So yeah, you were a dick to me - now it's my turn to be a dick to you." Clearly mad.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: thorr on 01.07.2017 13:28:02
Ayy lmao, this Atlasben can't be old for sure.

(http://i.imgur.com/ws9VWE1.jpg)

Achievement unlocked:

Banned from an idle server.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Dark Inferno on 01.07.2017 13:35:27
lmao, another no reason ban to add to the list. This atlasben is basically living in that server seems so.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: thorr on 01.07.2017 13:49:00
Shit, I had a whole activity log from TF2 ranging back from 2016 with in game messages and shit like that. I deleted it by accident, too bad.

Found some older stuff though:

(TEAM) atlasben :  sweeney, i will put you back to normal if you promise to not do that glitch. i will get an admin in a bit and i will kill/kick
(TEAM) atlasben :  whoever is doing that

22:27 - Black: atlasben :  this asshole will get banned
Black :  who
atlasben :  erathia/porr/russian name - they're all the same asshole

00:03 - Sweeney Todd: Dude
00:03 - Sweeney Todd: Be proud of me xd
00:03 - Sweeney Todd: Atlas banned me because I killed him and dominated :D
00:03 - Sweeney Todd: Lol
00:03 - Sweeney Todd: Called me bitch and banned xd

17:41 - Hjue!: atlas says he had other reason as well
17:41 - Hjue!: but he says hes not willing to tell anyone cause he has his "human rights"
17:41 - Hjue!: woopy doo
17:46 - Hjue!: id like to hear your friends side of the sroty
17:47 - Hjue!: story*

atlasben: i payed blue 600$ for the server, and i want to have fun in it, not get pissed
Hjue!: u are making everyone else pissed
atlasben: really?
atlasben: ask

 atlasben: nope
atlasben: i killed AFKs and then he just killed me and instnatly taunted
atlasben: he started


Yo bluestar, if you even care. Mind checking the banned_user.cfg in the sourcemod folder and clear it, we don't really need an admin in a fit of rage banning everyone that kills him. :giggle:
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Naomie Smalls on 01.07.2017 13:54:15
Saying the other two are empty, well fill them up! If everyone thought 'not going to join this server cuz its empty', no servers would be crowded to begin with!
Take everyone from idle 1, bring them to idle 2. Bluestar will not take away his powers as he is too nice to this guy and unfortunately I do not have the power to do it for him. Its a matter of reconnecting to another server where everything is the same except the admin. If he really is a cunt (and he is) I wouldn't think twice to just hop to one of the other two servers we have. It won't be empty if you fill it up with everyone who also does not like this guy.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: thorr on 01.07.2017 14:15:46
Saying the other two are empty, well fill them up! If everyone thought 'not going to join this server cuz its empty', no servers would be crowded to begin with!
Take everyone from idle 1, bring them to idle 2. Bluestar will not take away his powers as he is too nice to this guy and unfortunately I do not have the power to do it for him. Its a matter of reconnecting to another server where everything is the same except the admin. If he really is a cunt (and he is) I wouldn't think twice to just hop to one of the other two servers we have. It won't be empty if you fill it up with everyone who also does not like this guy.

Much easier said than done, to be honest. Most of these servers fill up on thursday and the preference goes for the first one in most cases. At peak point nowadays the first server barely even reaches 18 anymore, whereas in the past it mostly reached 30.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Dark Inferno on 01.07.2017 15:42:10
Yeah in the good old days when i remember constant 30 people, but now there are max like 15 people in the main server and the 2 other ones are always empty or some 1 guy randomly afking there. We want to play in main server but cause of abusive admin almost the whole server is cleaned, and now it seems nobody can't do anything about it neither. Thanks atlasben for being such a cunt.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Dessi on 02.07.2017 02:46:06
Sorry, but i haven't forgotten about you being a dick the whole time i was on the server, and while i was VIP.

So yeah, you were a dick to me - now it's my turn to be a dick to you.

If you are actively killing the server by abusing powers maybe you are the asshole and not the other players on the server. Even if everyone is against you there must be a reason, maybe it is time to reflect on what you are doing wrong and change your attitude. Also if you go on a power trip because someone trashtalk or kill you a few times then maybe online games aren't for you buddy. There is other people around who might not enjoy it as much as you do.

Quote
(TEAM) atlasben :  sweeney, i will put you back to normal if you promise to not do that glitch. i will get an admin in a bit and i will kill/kick
(TEAM) atlasben :  whoever is doing that

22:27 - Black: atlasben :  this asshole will get banned
Black :  who
atlasben :  erathia/porr/russian name - they're all the same asshole

00:03 - Sweeney Todd: Dude
00:03 - Sweeney Todd: Be proud of me xd
00:03 - Sweeney Todd: Atlas banned me because I killed him and dominated :D
00:03 - Sweeney Todd: Lol
00:03 - Sweeney Todd: Called me bitch and banned xd

17:41 - Hjue!: atlas says he had other reason as well
17:41 - Hjue!: but he says hes not willing to tell anyone cause he has his "human rights"
17:41 - Hjue!: woopy doo
17:46 - Hjue!: id like to hear your friends side of the sroty
17:47 - Hjue!: story*

atlasben: i payed blue 600$ for the server, and i want to have fun in it, not get pissed
Hjue!: u are making everyone else pissed
atlasben: really?
atlasben: ask

There isn't a whole lot of context but I'll have to agree with Thorr here, Atlasben seems very juvenile. If you punish someone you should give a reason. You can be quiet but that just makes you come off as a bigger asshole. Also, by the evidence in this thread I really understand why you would need to pay for admin powers.

Lastly, I highly suggest Bluestar demote him. Even if he gave you a $600 knife dude the server will be dead should this shit continue.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Dark Inferno on 02.07.2017 08:58:08
Finally someone understands.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Dr. Deltality on 02.07.2017 13:12:18
Finally someone understands.
He's hardly the first to say that. But what can you do if the guy in charge doesn't care at all? Even if he's indirectly causing another one of his servers to die out
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Naomie Smalls on 02.07.2017 14:29:51
Communicating with both atlasben and bluestar is kind of difficult. I've offered blue that I take care of the guy but he won't let me unfortunately. I haven't had any response from atlasben yet so all I can do si try bluestar again. If that doesn't work out, maybe just look for another community instead.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Bluestar on 02.07.2017 15:56:48
About everyone screaming that idle 1 is getting low amount of people. You realize it started getting that long before Atlasben right ? Once valve released UI patch to the game where community servers browser button were moved away and official servers were first choice. Most people that played on the server are 12 year old kids that barely read any English. Those people stopped joining. Look at idle 2 for example, it used to be full as well back in time, it does not have any admins and yet its completely empty.

So id say its rather valve fault that the servers are more or less empty.
I'm not gonna comment anything about Atlastben yet we will see in the near future.

OLD (http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/teamfortress/images/c/c4/Main_menu_with_the_Sniper_TF2.png/revision/latest?cb=20130805054530)
NEW (http://upload.catgc.com/img/8ec4c5e64fd895cb6c589b93bd83b49e.jpg)
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Dark Inferno on 02.07.2017 17:41:59
"I'm not gonna comment anything about Atlastben yet we will see in the near future." So you basically don't care what atlasben is doing?
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Dr. Deltality on 02.07.2017 19:43:45
"I'm not gonna comment anything about Atlastben yet we will see in the near future." So you basically don't care what atlasben is doing?
That's basically what I said earlier
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Другарю Рийл_Дийл on 03.07.2017 01:08:49
If this guy donated 600$ after CaTGC died, man, do I feel sorry for him. I don't even know what's there to do on an idle server?
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Dark Inferno on 03.07.2017 11:28:11
Donated 600$ just to abuse admin in idle server.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Bastard on 03.07.2017 17:57:36
Pretty sure Bluestar won't ban or demote him so he won't burn any bridges, so to speak. He's probably hoping for more donations from a kid who could actually use the money for something useful.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Dark Inferno on 04.07.2017 10:56:30
Well since he wont ban or demote him the thing he could do is limit some of his admin abilities like thorr said.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Naomie Smalls on 04.07.2017 13:26:58
Well since he wont ban or demote him the thing he could do is limit some of his admin abilities like thorr said.

Already asked him to remove his kick/ban/godmode abilities. He will not budge.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Dark Inferno on 04.07.2017 15:27:59
This is bullshit then. Owner gives 0 fucks about his server.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: thorr on 04.07.2017 18:56:52
Back to the point. Owner is running servers but doesn't care about them. What's the point of keeping any of them alive? You're paying for it, 2 of the idle servers are never at all populated, in over a year time.

Now I've no P.H.D. in economics but surely you can cut budget marginally by discontinuing these servers.

/thread
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Dark Inferno on 04.07.2017 20:43:55
"Owner is running servers but doesn't care about them. What's the point of keeping any of them alive?"
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Bastard on 04.07.2017 22:00:07
/thread

Bahahaha, you can't put "/thread" on your own post like you're congratulating yourself on how awesome your post was.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Bluestar on 05.07.2017 07:15:42
Running servers is free for me, idle servers were made for ad money back in time. Since you know IDLE = "Place where people supposed to AFK...". I don't play TF2 so i didn't bother making some actual normal gamemode server.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Dark Inferno on 05.07.2017 10:17:44
We should just end this bs, nobody is gonna do anything to atlasben hes free to do whatever the fuck he wants as i see it. Just let him continue abusing his admin.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Stavik on 05.07.2017 18:40:29
It's an idle server, who cares if an admin noclips and kills you or whatever, you go there to be IDLE, to farm items without actually having to play the game, if you want to play the game, go to a server where you're supposed to play the game, and not afk farm drops.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Lalafell on 05.07.2017 19:13:39
OR KICK??????????
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Naomie Smalls on 05.07.2017 19:14:15
It's an idle server, who cares if an admin noclips and kills you or whatever, you go there to be IDLE, to farm items without actually having to play the game, if you want to play the game, go to a server where you're supposed to play the game, and not afk farm drops.

Lol are you dumb, they were kicked and banned continuously, stop trying to defend this guy
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Bastard on 05.07.2017 23:08:48
It's an idle server, who cares if an admin noclips and kills you or whatever, you go there to be IDLE, to farm items without actually having to play the game, if you want to play the game, go to a server where you're supposed to play the game, and not afk farm drops.

Oh man, who would have thought that you of all people would randomly side with Bluestar and grasp for straws when it comes to defending his actions?

"Shit, we ran out of arguments to hide that Bluestar knows that the admin is abusing and that he doesn't demote him because he wants more donations and because he wants to avoid conflict no matter the cost! Ooh, I have an idea, let's just claim that it's okay to abuse on that server now!"

You're right, Stavik. It's just an idle server, so it's not like an abusive admin is gonna keep anyone from being idle there, even if he kicks or bans them randoml- oh...wait.

You're a fucking high staff or whatever you are. You are actually admitting to defending admin abuse and you are proving that you have no idea what this fucking thread is about.

Dark Inferno is absolutely right when he says that it doesn't matter anyway what we say. We all know that Bluestar won't demote the person that we know he knows is an abusive admin, and we all know why he's not demoting him. Like, you know that this server is dead when one of the superadmins tells you to go somewhere else if you don't wanna be abused.

Stavik, any other insights on how to solve problems? Maybe the people of Hiroshima should have gone somewhere else if they didn't wanna get nuked? I mean, that's an absolutely valid suggestion, isn't it?
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Dr. Deltality on 05.07.2017 23:26:41
Probably the last active server in this community, apart from teamspeak and this forum if you count those, and Bluestar just lets some abusive admin kill it off like this. Yep, CaTGC has hit rock-bottom.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Dark Inferno on 06.07.2017 10:22:02
It's an idle server, who cares if an admin noclips and kills you or whatever, you go there to be IDLE, to farm items without actually having to play the game, if you want to play the game, go to a server where you're supposed to play the game, and not afk farm drops.
    There are still people who are defending atlasben after all the shit hes done and still doing, can't belive it lol. If i play in that server i barely see someone idling there, people are coming there to have fun and play the game, now someone do something do atlasben already.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Teenystingray75 on 12.07.2017 21:46:16
It's an idle server, who cares if an admin noclips and kills you or whatever, you go there to be IDLE, to farm items without actually having to play the game, if you want to play the game, go to a server where you're supposed to play the game, and not afk farm drops.
    There are still people who are defending atlasben after all the shit hes done and still doing, can't belive it lol. If i play in that server i barely see someone idling there, people are coming there to have fun and play the game, now someone do something do atlasben already.

it's funny how much you don't know about the server, Dark Inferno - i get called onto it almost daily thanks to this DeN asshole using temporary accounts to ruin other's experience.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Dark Inferno on 13.07.2017 11:46:56
Don't you tell me what i know or what i don't know about that server, you admin abusing hillbilly nerd. Paying owner like 600 dollars to abuse admin, i'm completely amazed how stupid you are.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Teenystingray75 on 13.07.2017 14:31:35
Don't you tell me what i know or what i don't know about that server, you admin abusing hillbilly nerd. Paying owner like 600 dollars to abuse admin, i'm completely amazed how stupid you are.

you're still about that, despite the fact that I gave the knife to Blue because I promised it to him and not to recieve administration, and you aren't even playing on the server whatsoever. From my perspective, the only reason to continue staying in your position is either because you are incapable of admitting you were wrong, or you are actually the same guy who is being a low-life pest. And i do not mean "ÞÓRR", but "DeN".
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Dark Inferno on 13.07.2017 15:23:57
Wtf i'm not the same guy you fking mongol. And oh belive me son, i have played that server but i quited cause of some vips abusing just resize and you abusing your admin abilities. And don't change this thread subject, it was created because YOU abused your admin so talk about that. And once you get manhandled i might join again but this never happens as we all know.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Teenystingray75 on 14.07.2017 13:37:58
Yep, that's a clear slate - you're this idiot DeNn
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Dark Inferno on 14.07.2017 13:40:42
You have no idea what you talking about anymore lmao, gone mad cause abusing admin so much junior?
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Teenystingray75 on 14.07.2017 13:48:30
Say what you want, DeN or DenN or DeNn, whatever the fuck you want to call yourself - I know for 100% that's you, and that you have no life for constantly coming to my server to just spam and ruin other's game.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Другарю Рийл_Дийл on 14.07.2017 22:04:48
Cease the authority!!!!
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: DiivZe on 14.07.2017 23:05:07
To be honest. I would render this complaint invalid instantly. Why? Cause you posted yourself cheating that even more against the rules.

Proof: http://i.imgur.com/yD6Z9GQ.png (http://i.imgur.com/yD6Z9GQ.png).

So if you want to make a complaint. Make sure you don't show proof where you are cheating.. It's a lot worse than just admin abuse on a idle server.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Teenystingray75 on 14.07.2017 23:13:00
true, he does have a w/h. But he's on red team - when you spawn you can see outlines around teammates and friendly buildings. Even I don't see how you can tell he's cheating from that picture alone.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Другарю Рийл_Дийл on 15.07.2017 01:38:06
I bet if you use this subforum, we'll banhammer the shit out of this fucker

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/SyGC/discussions/0/828934424087022159/
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Teenystingray75 on 15.07.2017 14:35:14
I bet if you use this subforum, we'll banhammer the shit out of this fucker

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/SyGC/discussions/0/828934424087022159/

That's great and all, but there is no point to ban this person.
Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: thorr on 16.07.2017 00:46:43
To be honest. I would render this complaint invalid instantly. Why? Cause you posted yourself cheating that even more against the rules.

Proof: http://i.imgur.com/yD6Z9GQ.png (http://i.imgur.com/yD6Z9GQ.png).

So if you want to make a complaint. Make sure you don't show proof where you are cheating.. It's a lot worse than just admin abuse on a idle server.

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Title: Re: Atlasben admin abuse
Post by: Lalafell on 17.07.2017 04:44:04
To be honest. I would render this complaint invalid instantly. Why? Cause you posted yourself cheating that even more against the rules.

Proof: http://i.imgur.com/yD6Z9GQ.png (http://i.imgur.com/yD6Z9GQ.png).

So if you want to make a complaint. Make sure you don't show proof where you are cheating.. It's a lot worse than just admin abuse on a idle server.

tf_enable_glows_after_respawn            : 1        : , "a", "cl"      : Enable teammate glow effects after respawn.
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